Episodes

  • Chasing Debbie Spander

    Chasing Debbie Spander
    Nov 14 2024
    Get ready to dive into the wild world of sports biz with Debbie Spander, the CEO of Insight Sports Advisors—a boutique sports media agency where deals happen, dreams are made, and retired athletes try not to be the “Remember that guy?” stories! Debbie’s gone from slinging legal briefs as a sports lawyer to negotiating contracts as a sports agent, and she’s spilling all the tea. She tackles the big stuff, like what athletes should do when hanging up the cleats (because “Can I still wear these?” is sadly not a retirement plan). Debbie also dishes on the rise of social media influencers in sports—because these days, athletes don’t just train for game day; they train to drop fire selfies. This convo isn’t just business; Debbie gets personal! She opens up about her family's sports journalism legacy, the thrill (and chaos) of navigating NIL (name, image, likeness) for college athletes, and the crucial balance between on-field glory and off-field hustle. Plus, she shares advice for aspiring female sports lawyers because, let’s face it, this industry could use more women throwing down on and off the field. Expect laughs, insights, and maybe a few “Wait, what?” moments as Debbie dives into what it’s like being a true sports insider in a constantly changing game. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Debbie Spander and Insight Sports Advisors 03:14 Debbie's Journey: From Sports Lawyer to Agent 05:52 The Landscape of Sports Representation 09:06 Transitioning Athletes: Preparing for Second Careers 11:59 Identifying and Nurturing Talent in Sports Media 15:01 Challenges Faced by Retired Athletes 17:46 The Rise of Social Media Influencers in Sports 20:58 Advice for Aspiring Female Sports Lawyers 24:10 The Future of Women in Sports Representation 25:27 The Importance of Role Models in Sports 27:06 Balancing Ambitions: Athletes and Off-Field Pursuits 28:14 Content Creation: New Models in Sports Media 30:59 Evaluating Podcast Potential in Athletes 32:21 Lessons from a Sports Writing Legacy 35:30 The Role of Family in Shaping Careers 37:54 Boutique vs. Large Sports Agencies 39:46 Motivation and Client Relationships in Sports Management 41:45 Navigating the NIL Landscape 46:50 The Future of College Athletics and NIL
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    46 mins
  • Breakdown: Shohei Ohtani

    Breakdown: Shohei Ohtani
    Nov 7 2024
    This "Talent Chasing" podcast episode provides a look at Shohei Ohtani, his historic baseball journey, and the broader impact on the business of baseball. Hosted by former MLB player and scout Brian Johnson, journalist Jasper Spanjaart, and recruitment industry veteran Chad Sowash, the conversation explores Ohtani’s unique dual-role as both a top-tier pitcher and hitter—a feat that has transformed perceptions of player versatility in MLB. Ohtani’s path from Japanese baseball to MLB success is analyzed, with Brian detailing his scouting days and the rarity of Japanese players making it to MLB. They discuss Ohtani's decision to take a smaller initial contract to prove himself and build his reputation, a strategic move that contrasts with typical American contract norms and highlights his commitment to growth over immediate reward. The hosts also delve into the racial dynamics surrounding Ohtani's reception in the U.S., connecting it to broader societal issues and how MLB's demographic makeup influences fandom and player appreciation. They debate whether a team can thrive without a singular superstar and ponder the evolving role of scouts who must now consider both analytics and player personalities in their evaluations. Chapter Titles 01:04 - Shohei Ohtani’s Impact on MLB 03:47 - The Rarity of Dual Roles in Baseball 07:07 - Ohtani’s Strategic Contract Choices 16:04 - MLB's Demographics and Ohtani's Reception 18:45 - Comparing Ohtani to Other Legends 24:40 - The Role of a Superstar in a Winning Team 27:22 - Scouting Beyond Stats: The Importance of Personality 33:27 - Closing
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    31 mins
  • Breakdown: Simone Biles

    Breakdown: Simone Biles
    Oct 31 2024
    In this episode of Talent Chasing, Brian Johnson and Chad Sawash discuss the impact of mental health in sports, focusing on Simone Biles' journey and her advocacy for mental health awareness. They explore the concept of burnout in both sports and corporate settings, drawing parallels between athletes and professionals facing mental blocks, such as the yips. The conversation also addresses double standards in sports and corporate America, emphasizing the importance of diversity and empathy in leadership.
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    17 mins
  • Film Room - Jon Harris

    Film Room - Jon Harris
    Oct 24 2024
    In this episode of Talent Chasing, Brian Johnson and Chad Sowash dissect their interview with John Harris, owner of AthLife, and explore the complexities of athlete transitions into the real world, the implications of the NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) landscape, and the importance of unions in both sports and corporate environments. They discuss the challenges faced by collegiate athletes, the need for employee development in businesses, and the often-overlooked human element in analytics and corporate decision-making. Takeaways The transition from sports to real life is challenging for athletes. NIL has created new dilemmas for collegiate athletes. Unions play a crucial role in protecting athlete rights. Employee development is often neglected in corporate settings. Happy employees lead to better productivity and retention. The focus on numbers can overlook the human aspect of work. Collective bargaining can ensure fair compensation for all athletes. Athletes often feel unprepared for life after sports. The importance of branding for athletes has increased with NIL. There is a need for a VP of employee development in every company. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Challenge Chasing 04:54 Navigating the NIL Landscape 07:00 The Fantasy of Professional Sports 09:59 The Importance of Unions in Sports and Beyond 12:46 Employee Development in Corporate America 15:46 The Human Element in Business Analytics
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    17 mins
  • Chasing Jon Harris

    Chasing Jon Harris
    Oct 17 2024
    John Harris, the owner of AthLife, shares his journey of helping former professional athletes transition back into the real world. He explains how AthLife has assisted over a thousand athletes in pursuing education and finding new careers. The conversation also touches on the shift in college athletics with the introduction of name, image, and likeness (NIL) rights for student-athletes. The conversation covers various topics related to college athletes transitioning to professional careers and the challenges they face. The main themes include Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) deals, the transfer portal, academic advising for transfer students, the financial implications of transferring, the importance of education and career planning, the benefits of hiring former athletes, and success stories of athletes transitioning to post-sports careers. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to John Harris 02:28 The Genesis of AthLife and Supporting NFL Players 05:48 The Importance of Supporting Athletes' Education and Transition 08:29 Collective Bargaining and Transition Support in Different Leagues 12:57 Success Stories of AthLife's Program 15:29 Career Placement and Networking for Former Athletes 19:00 Challenges and Fears in Athlete Transition 20:00 Supporting Women Athletes in Transition 24:23 The Impact of Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) Rights in College Athletics 26:16 The Reality of NIL Opportunities for Student-Athletes 27:22 Navigating the Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) Landscape 28:13 The Challenges of the Transfer Portal 29:11 Academic Advising for Transfer Students 30:39 The Financial Implications of Transferring 35:10 The Importance of Education and Career Planning 38:25 The Benefits of Hiring Former Athletes 42:19 Success Stories of Athletes Transitioning to Post-Sports Careers
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    45 mins
  • Film Room - James Mims

    Film Room - James Mims
    Oct 10 2024
    In this episode, Brian Johnson and Chad Sowash discuss the inspiring story of James Mims, the creator of Mims Bands, a unique product that combines baseball cards with wristbands. They explore the entrepreneurial spirit, the importance of perseverance, and the role of founders in startups, emphasizing the significance of character and vision in achieving success. The conversation highlights Mims' journey, his relationship with mentor Dusty Baker, and his legacy as the only black vendor in Major League Baseball. Chapters 00:00 The Genesis of Mims Bands 04:46 Entrepreneurial Spirit and Relentlessness 10:23 The Importance of Founders in Startups 12:01 A Legacy of Perseverance and Recognition
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    13 mins
  • Chasing James Mims

    Chasing James Mims
    Oct 3 2024
    In this episode of *Talent Chasing*, hosted by Brian Johnson and Chad Sowash, the focus is on entrepreneur James Mims and his journey in founding Mims Bands, a wristband company that has become an iconic part of Major League Baseball (MLB) history. James shares how, as a senior at the University of Southern California, he came up with the idea for personalized wristbands for athletes, starting with a prototype for baseball player Dusty Baker. Over time, Mims Bands became widely recognized, worn by many notable MLB players like Eric Davis and Tim Raines. Despite facing numerous challenges, including resistance from MLB and the Players Association, Mims persevered and got his product used by over 130 players. Mims reflects on the obstacles he faced as a Black entrepreneur, from difficulties gaining access to stadiums to dealing with legal battles. The conversation also highlights how Mims promoted individualism in a highly structured sport like baseball. Brian and Chad emphasize the lessons from his experience, particularly around persistence, relationships, and the critical role of talent in both sports and business. The episode ends with a discussion of Mims' major accomplishments, including his partnership with Topps and the induction of his product into the Baseball Hall of Fame, cementing his legacy in the sport. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 01:19 Taking a Risk: Going for Your Unique Idea 08:11 Empowering Athletes through Individualism 14:54 The Lack of Player Marketing in Baseball 19:55 Breaking Barriers: The First Black Vendor in Baseball 23:57 Navigating Challenges and Building a Successful Business 37:50 The Journey of Mims Bands: Perseverance and Success 47:34 Overcoming Challenges with the Major League Baseball Players Association 59:42 The Power of Individualism in the Sports Industry 01:05:07 From Tops Project 70 to the Hall of Fame: A Pinnacle Achievement
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    1 hr
  • Film Room: Angela Taylor

    Film Room: Angela Taylor
    Sep 26 2024
    *Film Room* is a podcast series under the *Talent Chasing* show, hosted by Brian Johnson, a former Major League Baseball player, and Chad Sowash, a recruitment industry veteran. In this episode, the hosts break down key moments from their interview with Angela Taylor, a former WNBA executive and two-time national champion at Stanford University. The discussion revolves around Angela’s experience helping to establish the WNBA and navigating the early challenges of building a new professional sports league. She reflects on the differences between the NBA and WNBA, emphasizing how the women’s league had to carve out its unique identity rather than mimic the NBA. The conversation also touches on leadership, with Angela sharing insights about the unrelenting leadership of NBA Commissioner David Stern, who was instrumental in the early development of the WNBA. The hosts highlight how Stern’s approach of holding people accountable while fostering long-term vision contributed to the league's success. In addition to sports, the episode draws parallels with business, exploring themes such as the importance of long-term planning, mentorship, and the role of companies in supporting local communities and developing talent. The hosts emphasize that both sports teams and businesses must balance analytics and human capital, ensuring that leaders cultivate and retain talent from within their communities while adapting to broader market demands. Overall, the episode showcases the intersections of leadership, team dynamics, and strategic foresight, drawing valuable lessons from Angela Taylor's experiences in the WNBA and beyond. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Talent Chasing 01:02 Angela Taylor's Journey in Sports 06:09 Lessons from David Stern's Leadership 12:16 Community Engagement and Talent Development 17:10 The Balance of Analytics and Human Capital
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    18 mins