• EP07 - Between Two Bots with Yakaira Núñez
    Jan 19 2022

    Welcome to a new episode of the Between Two Bots podcast. In this podcast, we discuss the cultural, technological, and ethical implications of artificial intelligence and AI-based decisions. A discussion that we think is so important to have as it affects us all as our relationship with machines is changing. AI is becoming more and more pervasive and has a bigger impact on our lives and the way we work.

    DEI is the acronym for diversity, equity inclusion and this has become very important today, especially when it comes to AI. Very few people actually work at the intersection of DEI and AI. In this episode, though, we have one of the foremost thinkers on both topics.

    Yakaira Núñez is the Vice President of Research and Insights at Salesforce. Salesforce has more than 150,000 customers more than 55,000 employees, there really aren't many bigger or more impactful platforms on which to exercise responsible AI coupled with a DEI mindset. The decisions that Kai and her team make influence how software and AI are used literally by hundreds of millions of people every day.

    As always, we start our episode by discussing three articles and this week’s articles are:

    1. AI Ethics: Enter The Dragon (about China’s proposed AI code of ethics) - https://montrealethics.ai/ai-ethics-enter-the-dragon/
    2. AI bias and human rights (about why ethical AI matters) - https://www.ericsson.com/en/blog/2021/11/ai-bias-what-is-it
    3. AI researcher says Big Tech is doing it all wrong (about Big Tech’s misaligned incentives) - https://screenrant.com/gebru-ai-big-tech-ethics/

    For more information on Kai Núñez: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yakairanunez/

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    45 mins
  • EP06 - Between Two Bots with Dr. Dorothea Baur
    Jan 12 2022

    Welcome to the Between Two Bots podcast. In this podcast, we discuss the cultural, technological and ethical implications of artificial intelligence and AI-based decisions. A discussion that is so important to have as it affects us all. Especially now, that our relationship with machines is changing as we move from human to human, to human to machine, to machine to machine interactions. AI becomes more pervasive and has a bigger impact on how we live and how and the work that we do.

    This week's guest is Dr. Dorothea Baur. Dr. Dorothea Baur is an independent consultant who provides ethics strategy consulting for decision-makers in tech and finance. At the intersection of technology, society and the environment, companies are often confronted with ethical questions. The challenge is to find credible answers to these questions without losing sight of business reality. She offers consulting, speaking and teaching services on AI & Ethics, CSR & sustainability, and ESG and sustainable finance.

    Podcast notes:
    Dr. Dorothea Baur: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dorotheabaur/

    3 weekly articles:

    1. How Big Tech dominates EU's AI ethics group - https://euobserver.com/investigations/153386
    2. With Robotics4EU, the EU wants us to believe in responsible AI robots - https://techhq.com/2021/11/with-robotics4eu-the-eu-wants-us-to-believe-in-responsible-ai-robots/
    3. Machine Learning, Deep Fakes, and the Threat of an Artificially Intelligent Hate-Bot - https://quillette.com/2021/11/04/machine-learning-deep-fakes-and-the-threat-of-an-artificially-intelligent-hate-bot/

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    41 mins
  • EP05 - Between Two Bots with Gary Bolles
    Dec 16 2021

    Welcome to the Between Two Bots podcast. In this podcast, we discuss the cultural, technological and ethical implications of artificial intelligence and AI-based decisions. A discussion that is so important to have as it affects us all. Especially now, that our relationship with machines is changing as we move from human to human, to human to machine, to machine to machine interactions. AI becomes more pervasive and has a bigger impact on how we live and how and the work that we do.

    This week's guest is Gary Bolles. Gary leads Lead Singularity University's activities related to the shift to a digital work economy, helping individuals, organizations, and government agencies to navigate disruptive change. A frequent lecturer on the future of work and the future of learning, Gary is the author of "The Next Rules of Work".

    Podcast notes:
    David Shrier: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbolles/

    3 weekly articles:

    1. Mark Zuckerberg’s metaverse may be as privacy flawed as Facebook - https://fortune.com/2021/10/29/mark-zuckerberg-metaverse-privacy-facebook-meta/
    2. What we’re getting wrong about The Great Resignation - https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20211028-what-were-getting-wrong-about-the-great-resignation
    3. AI and human rights - a different take on an old debate - https://diginomica.com/ai-and-human-rights-different-take-old-debate

    Gary Bolles's book: The Next Rules of Work: https://amzn.to/3F12t5N

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    45 mins
  • EP04 - Between Two Bots with David Shrier
    Dec 8 2021

    Welcome to the Between Two Bots podcast. This is the podcast where we talk about the future of humanity, society, and government all as seen through the lens of your data, your privacy, and the ethics of AI. This is a conversation we need to be having now. Every week, we are redefining the boundaries between AI ethics, data and ways humans coexist with machines. Listen here each week, to learn from experts who are on the frontlines defining how will work and live for decades ahead

    This week's guest is David Shrier. David Shrier is CEO and co-founder of Esme Learning, an AI-powered digital learning platform. He is a leading AI futurist who has driven $9 billion worth of technology initiatives for Fortune 1000 companies and private equity. Shrier currently holds an appointment as Professor of Practice (AI and Innovation) at Imperial College Business School, and he is a former MIT New Ventures Officer and lecturer at the MIT Media Lab and he recently founded and an AI ethics institute.

    Podcast notes:
    David Shrier: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-shrier

    3 weekly articles:

    1. Artificial Intelligence: the global landscape of ethics guidelines - https://montrealethics.ai/artificial-intelligence-the-global-landscape-of-ethics-guidelines/
    2. Why AI-powered EdTech is the future of life-long learning - https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/why-ai-powered-edtech-is-the-future-of-life-long-learning/113658/
    3. The Ethics of Artificial Intelligence (AI) - https://www.datamation.com/artificial-intelligence/the-ethics-of-artificial-intelligence-ai/

    David Shrier's book: Augmenting Your Career: How to Win at Work In the Age of AI - https://amzn.to/3EvuaDk

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    46 mins
  • EP03 - Between Two Bots with Marcell Vollmer from Boston Consulting Group
    Nov 30 2021

    Welcome back to Between Two Bots. This is the podcast where we discuss the future of humanity, society, and government, as seen through the lens of your data, your privacy and the ethics of AI. Today’s guest is Dr. Marcell Vollmer, Partner and Director at BCG and advisor to C-Level Executives & Executive Teams on the full range of digital transformation.

    Every week, we test the boundaries between AI ethics, data and ways humans coexist with machines. Tune in each week to learn from the experts who are on the frontlines defining how will work and live for the next century.

    We sit today really at the confluence of what I'd call three trends. More automated decisions are being made on our behalf. They have a greater impact on our lives, and frustratingly, there's less transparency than ever, about what goes into the making of those decisions.

    Speaker notes:
    Dr. Marcell Vollmer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcellvollmer/

    3 weekly articles:
    Americans Need a Bill of Rights for an AI-Powered World - https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-bill-of-rights-artificial-intelligence/
    Reboot AI with human values - https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02693-2
    Europe wants to champion human rights. So why doesn’t it police biased AI in recruiting? - https://sifted.eu/articles/europe-ai-bias-recruiting/

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    43 mins
  • EP02 - Between Two Bots with Maria Axente, Responsible AI Lead at PwC UK
    Nov 17 2021

    Welcome back to Between Two Bots. This is the podcast where we discuss the future of humanity, society, and government as seen through the lens of your data, your privacy, and the ethics of AI. The is a conversation we need to be having now. We want you to be on the right side of innovation. Listen each week to learn from experts who are on the front lines defining how we’ll work and live alongside machines. If you enjoy these discussions, please like, share, and comment in your favorite podcast app.

    One of our recurring themes is how technology and Big Tech is disrupting the traditional role of governments. Today’s guest is no stranger to the topic.  

    Maria Luciana Axente leads responsible and ethical AI initiatives for PwC in the UK. She was named one of 100 Billiant Women in AI ethics in 2019 and advises organizations like the World Economic Forum and UNICEF on issues related to the impact of AI on society.

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    51 mins
  • EP01 - Between Two Bots with Imtiaz Adam, AI expert at Deep Learn Strategies
    Nov 15 2021

    Welcome to the Between Two Bots podcast. A podcast to discuss the cultural, technological and ethical implications of artificial intelligence and AI-based decisions. It will include discussion on the latest AI news and interviews with leaders on how to create fair and unbiased AI. The podcast will be hosted by Dan Turchin and Dr Mark van Rijmenam.

    Each podcast starts with a discussion on three articles. For this episode we discussed the following articles:

    1. Tech Giants Are Killing AI Projects Over Ethics - CDO trends - https://www.cdotrends.com/story/15876/tech-giants-are-killing-ai-projects-over-ethics
    2. Chinese AI gets ethical guidelines for the first time, aligning with Beijing’s goal of reining in Big Tech - SMCP - https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3150789/chinese-ai-gets-ethical-guidelines-first-time-aligning-beijings-goal
    3. Pandora papers: biggest ever leak of offshore data exposes financial secrets of rich and powerful - The Guardian - https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/oct/03/pandora-papers-biggest-ever-leak-of-offshore-data-exposes-financial-secrets-of-rich-and-powerful

    For this episode, we invited Imtiaz Adam. Imtiaz is a Strategy Executive, MBA & Data Scientist and a Hybrid Business & AI Analytics expert.

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    38 mins