It's domination programming that teaches us the louder we raise our voices, the faster the other person will capitulate and join our side.

However, in order to affect real change, the key is to get others to care about what it is we're caring about. And this is a much slower, longer, harder task.

In this episode, we talk with a caller embarking on a trip to South Africa, who is interested in showing up authentically to her traveling companions, without raising their defenses. The ultimate goal? To get them to care about what she cares about. We discuss:

• 1:44 How can I show up authentically around my husband's colleagues when we see the world so differently?
• 3:34 One of the dynamics present is the devaluation of indigenous history and culture
• 5:55 How to step out of the old domination game
• 7:43 Making the implicit explicit
• 12:54 Empathizing with the other side
• 16:37 The importance of expressing care
• 18:45 It's enough to introduce a disruptive voice into the room

—

Thank you for tuning in. Remember to subscribe so you get notified when I publish an episode weekly.

Here are more ways to connect with me:

• Become a member of my online learning community
• Winter 2025 Retreat: Getting Grounded in Your Goodness
• Join our calls live
• Set up a private session
• Follow me on TikTok @dr.yvetteerasmus